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Aircraft Trivia Quiz 2 (Join In)
jaypee
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 05:30 AM GMT+7
What do you mean umm?
look at those graceful sweeping ... yeah ok it is truely awful



my auld man worked in "the aircraft" as Shorts is known in Belfast.
My brother works there now. The pride of Irish engineering.
Heart of the East (Belfast)
And the skyvan does what it says on the tin.
It is a van and it goes in the sky

I'll have to think up something equally hideous for you all now.

JP
pigsty
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 06:16 AM GMT+7
You should see it in the Farnborough colour scheme - dark blue underside and a red cheatline. The only things missing were a Plimsoll line and a row of brass scuttles along the fuselage.
LongKnife
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 07:10 AM GMT+7
Well, I have to say this forum is among the best. Thin one is just another I never knew about. The biggest question however is this - will the stuff here never seize to amaze me, or did that happen a long time ago.

Now go find something ugly JP, and I don't mean at the next pub.....

Tony
nosewrit
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 09:25 AM GMT+7
How about a twin jet where the engines were mounted in tandem?

And then there is this...






pigsty
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 11:00 AM GMT+7
Tandem as in one behind the other? I'd pay good money to see that.

Your photo: the link will work if you change the end to read [/img] - the slash tells the system it's the end of the formating. As for the aircraft, is that one of those mad things that Kurt Tank designed in Argentina?
nosewrit
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 11:08 AM GMT+7
Well, putting the slash didn't help.

Anyway, yes, the plane is Argentine, but not a Tank design.
And a hint, the tandem twin jet was experimental......
jaypee
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 04:24 AM GMT+7
Hi Matthew, convention dictates you answer the previous question before
asking one. But thats OK I'll pass this time. But I've got a really ugly plane
for next I get one right, beware

Unless Gerry Anderson is Argentine I've no idea who designed this
nosewrit
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:44 PM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Hi Matthew, convention dictates you answer the previous question before
asking one.



My apologies, everyone, I didn't know. So lets get rid of my garbage right now. The pointy one is the IA 37, designed by Reinhold Horten, 1948 in Argentina.

The tandem jet is the experimental Su-15 (not to be confused with the production Su-15 Flagon) The experimental Su-15 had a bifricated nose inlet, one duct going to the front engine which exited under the fuselage a la the Yak-15, the other duct leading to the rear engine exiting out the tail.
jaypee
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 05:43 PM GMT+7
Hey Matthew, it really was no problem Have you and pictures of that
su-15 sounds interesting.

I promised something ugly so here it is.
First question which way round does it fly?



Second what is it?
thegirl
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 07:13 PM GMT+7
It's a motorhome with wing's , that's what it is !!
grubbyfingers
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 07:52 PM GMT+7
It's a BN Islander after another low-budget remake of The Flight of the Pheonix"!
LongKnife
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 01:38 AM GMT+7
I guess it flies to the left. Had it flown to the right, the first letter read by people seing it would be "Y". Then "M", "R" and so on. And, I mean, what's YMRA? Ergo - It flies to the left.

Tony
pigsty
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 05:07 AM GMT+7
Jaypee - fairly sure the left-hand end is the front but don't quote me on that. The configuration is reminiscent of some of the tandem-wing designs tried out in the war - is it made by Miles or Westland?

Matthew - no big deal stepping in, hope you enjoy the quiz! I'm not sure the old Su-15 is truly tandem, though, since the engines are along different axes. Strictly speaking the EE LIghtning had the same layout, since the lower engine was mounted under the wing and the upper one further back. A truly tandem jet would have the rear one breathing the exhaust from the front one and I don't want to think about that! It occurred to me that the Do 335 is a tandem twin, but then of course that's not a jet ...
jaypee
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 05:54 AM GMT+7
Not sure of any direct Miles or Westland connection. There is a Hawker
connection though through the designer.

And well done those who got the direction of travel right.

Just to prove it flew

LongKnife
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 06:17 AM GMT+7
Darn, JP. You really know your Photoshop. But it looks like you were a bit sloppy around the starboard main wheel putting the airplane on the background.

Please don't say old Sidney had anything to do woth this box, please...

Tony
jaypee
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 06:59 AM GMT+7
Not it is not a hawker design, don't worry.
but Sir Sydney is almost certain to have spoken to the designer of this aircraft.
pigsty
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:43 AM GMT+7
Hawker connection as in part of the Hawker Siddeley Group? Not that that narrows it down much ...
jaypee
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 12:01 PM GMT+7
Yep the designer worked for Hawker. But this plane is not part of the Hawker group.
jaypee
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Posted: Friday, May 22, 2009 - 08:12 AM GMT+7
Time for clue,
The designer worked on while at hawker: the bucc, the fury and the hunter.

This plane began development in 1971
mvfrog
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Posted: Friday, May 22, 2009 - 12:45 PM GMT+7
It's a One Eyed One Horned Flying Purple People Eater (in winter camouflage).

Matt
pigsty
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Posted: Friday, May 22, 2009 - 04:31 PM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Sir Sydney is almost certain to have spoken to the designer of this aircraft.



Did he swear at him at the traffic lights, or something?

Drawing a complete blank on this one, will kick self once it comes through...
jaypee
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Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 03:07 PM GMT+7
ok another clue then. He was a test pilot at Hawker, not an a/c designer.
so may have spoke to Sir Sydney.

Also this is not full scale plane just a 70% test rig powered by an 85hp
engine.
pigsty
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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 12:08 PM GMT+7
I think we need another clue - like the aircraft's name! Put us out of our misery, please!
jaypee
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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 05:02 PM GMT+7
Sorry this has been such a rotter of a quiz question, but it is nice
to find new types.

ok the key is the designers name as this was a small operation
It was a weekend prject that many hawker and BAC engineers had
their hand in. It was a completely serious venture to provide the
British Army with a cheap stol for infils. they even had rocket pack
mounting made for it for close support role!

His surname he shared with the man who killed the miles supersonic project. A relation? I don't know.
Once you have surname it is a google search away.

JP
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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 05:58 PM GMT+7
Lockspeiser LDA-01

Google won this round!