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Subject: "Vietnam Briefing"
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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:40 PM UTC
Hello!
First I want to ask apollogie if my inglish isnīt the best.
In this moment Iīm painting and making a Vietnam diorama about gun trucks. I have a ford mutt gun constructed by myself. The ford mutt belong to Tamiya and some figures belong to Verlinden and anothers are constrycted by me, with verlinden and hornet heads...
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:04 AM UTC
A lot of the master figure painters hang out at Historicus Forma, you can get there by using the 'Switch Sites' banner at the top of the page. They will be able to give you lots of help if you post your figures there.

I can tell you is that your figures look great, but more shadows and highlights need to be applied. They also appear quite glossy? With the dust, I know Vietnamese earth is quite orange-red, but the dust on these guys' clothes looks more like rust (too deeper red).

The dirt colour on the jeep tires look closer to the real thing,

Keep it up,

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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:10 AM UTC
Thanks for the help.
Iīm trying do the best for next time...
Another person said me the same, my figures need more shadows and highlights.
Thank you.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:21 AM UTC
Hello again!
My figures arenīt glossy. Its the fotos that I took. I take fotos with flash because if I donīt take with flash the fotos are very dark...
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:41 AM UTC

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Hello again!
My figures arenīt glossy. Its the fotos that I took. I take fotos with flash because if I donīt take with flash the fotos are very dark...


Hi,

You will need to start taking photos in natural light i.e during the daytime. I always take my photographs in the naturally brightest room of the house, my shed. I have some white curtains on the windows which diffuses the sunlight. Anywhere where there is diffused (not direct) sunlight. Also, try to use a piece dark blue cardboard as a background. This will bring out the subject's true colours and give your photos a professional look.

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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2008 - 06:26 PM UTC
I like the turned front wheels. All of mine are straight, as the method of cranking them to one side still eludes me......

The first figure with the flak jacket... the flak vests didn't as a rule have the name and US Army name tapes. If they did, the two would have been switched, with the last name on the right, and US Army on the left.

The Tamiya M151 bumper markings used are for the Arizona National Guard, and not appropriate for a Viet Nam setting.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 03:23 AM UTC
The idea and execution of this diorama is outstanding. There are some problems. If I were these guys commander I would ream them a new one. The M79 cracked open and just laying there! Son if there is this much dust wouldn't you want to keep your weapons free of it? Also where is you grenade ammo belt? Without grenades it isn't even a good club. Why is all that stuff on the hood?

The GI in the helmet with the late model M16 ammo pouch has hand grenades hanging off the grenade pouches. Put the grenades where they belong, you can get them out of the pouch when you need them. Also where did you get the antique "Walkie Talkie" radio.

The radio in the back should be OD in color, unless they borrowed it from the navy. No it was the Arizona National Guard who lent them the jeep. If anyone from commo saw one of those radios on the hood kiss your hiney goodbye. The one near the windshield looks more like a 46 than the one installed in the jeep. Is that supposed to be a PRC77 radio on the fender? It sort of looks like one, give it to the guy with the walkie talkie.

Where did they get all the ALICE gear? We didn't get that stuff if I remember right until well after the war.

Why does the jeep have white stars and the rest of the markings in black?

I know this is nit-picking but this is how I remember it. The diorama to me is that of a couple of newbies who are about to run up against the First Sergeant's unhappy side! The two standing GIs look as if they just got the jeep out of the mud. I don't have a problem with different colored dust. Vietnam was a place where you could be up to your waist in mud and be choking on dust! It would change color when it dried.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 05:48 AM UTC
Great project buddy! I am doing a armoured m151a1 brilliant! YOu have inspired me to do a Veitnam project



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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:02 AM UTC
Hello Jim.
Thanks for your commet.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:12 AM UTC

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The idea and execution of this diorama is outstanding. There are some problems. If I were these guys commander I would ream them a new one. The M79 cracked open and just laying there! Son if there is this much dust wouldn't you want to keep your weapons free of it? Also where is you grenade ammo belt? Without grenades it isn't even a good club. Why is all that stuff on the hood?

The GI in the helmet with the late model M16 ammo pouch has hand grenades hanging off the grenade pouches. Put the grenades where they belong, you can get them out of the pouch when you need them. Also where did you get the antique "Walkie Talkie" radio.

The radio in the back should be OD in color, unless they borrowed it from the navy. No it was the Arizona National Guard who lent them the jeep. If anyone from commo saw one of those radios on the hood kiss your hiney goodbye. The one near the windshield looks more like a 46 than the one installed in the jeep. Is that supposed to be a PRC77 radio on the fender? It sort of looks like one, give it to the guy with the walkie talkie.

Where did they get all the ALICE gear? We didn't get that stuff if I remember right until well after the war.

Why does the jeep have white stars and the rest of the markings in black?

I know this is nit-picking but this is how I remember it. The diorama to me is that of a couple of newbies who are about to run up against the First Sergeant's unhappy side! The two standing GIs look as if they just got the jeep out of the mud. I don't have a problem with different colored dust. Vietnam was a place where you could be up to your waist in mud and be choking on dust! It would change color when it dried.



Hello barney cooney.
Thanks for your comments too, but there some considerations to do. The ALICE pack was used in vietnam. I f you wantd I can send you some fotos with american soldiers with ALICE pack.
The observation about M79 is very good and you right. Open M79 isnīt a good idea in Vietnam because the yearth. Very good Observation.

The marks you reason too. Some white marks and another black marks isnīt a good idea. I don,t have many marks so I used the original kit marks. Iīm trying do better for the next time.
The walkie talkie was used in Vietnam. Many Special Forces used this kind of comunication and there are some movies like "green berets" with Jonh Wayne that showed green berets with this kind of radio.
I hope you like the first part of diorama. When the diorama will be complete I wil put another fotos.
Thanks for your considerations.
With best regards
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:15 AM UTC

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Great project buddy! I am doing a armoured m151a1 brilliant! YOu have inspired me to do a Veitnam project





Hello martyn crowther
Thank you for the positive words and I'm happy because you liked.
I hope see fotos about your inspiration....
LOL...
Thanks agian.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:32 AM UTC
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there are some movies like "green berets" with Jonh Wayne that showed green berets with this kind of radio.
I hope you like the first part of diorama. When the diorama will be complete I wil put another fotos.
Thanks for your considerations.
With best regards
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:04 AM UTC
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there are some movies like "green berets" with Jonh Wayne that showed green berets with this kind of radio.
I hope you like the first part of diorama. When the diorama will be complete I wil put another fotos.
Thanks for your considerations.
With best regards
HUGO PEREIRA




Hello!
I don't understand the comment?
Sorry...
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:32 AM UTC
hiya mate where did u get the helmet on the bonet of the jeep from???

im looking foward to some more progress =]

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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:38 AM UTC
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there are some movies like "green berets" with Jonh Wayne that showed green berets with this kind of radio.
I hope you like the first part of diorama. When the diorama will be complete I wil put another fotos.
Thanks for your considerations.
With best regards
HUGO PEREIRA




Hello!
I don't understand the comment?
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What he means by that is hugo is that you shouldn't take history lessons from movies since they are often more inaccurate then accurate. And the movie you used for reference might just be one of these inaccurate movies.
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Posted: Friday, December 12, 2008 - 04:21 AM UTC

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hiya mate where did u get the helmet on the bonet of the jeep from???

im looking foward to some more progress =]



Hello james crowther
Thank you for thr comment.
The helmet belong to verlinden but I don't remember were I bought the helmet.
Thank you.
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Posted: Friday, December 12, 2008 - 04:24 AM UTC
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there are some movies like "green berets" with Jonh Wayne that showed green berets with this kind of radio.
I hope you like the first part of diorama. When the diorama will be complete I wil put another fotos.
Thanks for your considerations.
With best regards
HUGO PEREIRA




Hello!
I don't understand the comment?
Sorry...




What he means by that is hugo is that you shouldn't take history lessons from movies since they are often more inaccurate then accurate. And the movie you used for reference might just be one of these inaccurate movies.



Hello!
Thank you for the explanation.
The example that I use is one example that can prove the talkie talkie use, but I have fotos in books. If you lihed I can send to you.
Thanks again.
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Posted: Friday, December 12, 2008 - 05:10 AM UTC
The helmet in question is one that came with the Verlinden figure of a black GI reclining. It is a stand-alone item - ie, one without a head in it, as often happens...!
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Hope this helps.

Otherwise - I think the dio is well thought out but as already noted above, contains some inaccurate items. There are so many references to the Vietnam war, in books and online, that it should be easy to find accurate photos and research material without resorting to films or Hollywood treatments of the war.
I think a bit of refining here and there, and it's good to go!

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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:57 AM UTC

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The helmet in question is one that came with the Verlinden figure of a black GI reclining. It is a stand-alone item - ie, one without a head in it, as often happens...!
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Hope this helps.

Otherwise - I think the dio is well thought out but as already noted above, contains some inaccurate items. There are so many references to the Vietnam war, in books and online, that it should be easy to find accurate photos and research material without resorting to films or Hollywood treatments of the war.
I think a bit of refining here and there, and it's good to go!



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Thank you for the comment and explanation.
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 01:01 AM UTC
thanks for that dude =-]

have you done some more progress with it then ?

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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 07:42 AM UTC

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thanks for that dude =-]

have you done some more progress with it then ?



Hi james crowther!
My diorama have little evolution. As soon the evolution is considerable I put more fotos.
Thank you.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:40 AM UTC
Hugo,

It's lookin good my friend. Remember we all didn't get to where we are without practice. Your concepts are great. Colors need some minor work, but over all you are doing well. I always look at other artist's work to learn the best techniques possible. Be sure to read many of the articles posted for weathering and painting figures and vehicles. There is a wealth of information out there. And never give up, my friend. You are doing just fine. If you continually strive to improve your skills you will only see better results in time. I've been painting since I was 13, but didn't really hit the paydirt, so to speak, until my late 20's. Read, read and reread and you will learn the tricks and tips of the masters. Everytime I change from armor to figures I have to reread the masters to reteach myself what I need to accomplish. If it sounds hard, it isn't, just get after it until you are satisfied. I personally am not where I'd like to be, but I always keep trying. You are off to a great start, so get after it and "get er done". Keep us posted on the progress of your dio Hugo.

Thx for sharing, Ski.

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Hugo,

It's lookin good my friend. Remember we all didn't get to where we are without practice. Your concepts are great. Colors need some minor work, but over all you are doing well. I always look at other artist's work to learn the best techniques possible. Be sure to read many of the articles posted for weathering and painting figures and vehicles. There is a wealth of information out there. And never give up, my friend. You are doing just fine. If you continually strive to improve your skills you will only see better results in time. I've been painting since I was 13, but didn't really hit the paydirt, so to speak, until my late 20's. Read, read and reread and you will learn the tricks and tips of the masters. Everytime I change from armor to figures I have to reread the masters to reteach myself what I need to accomplish. If it sounds hard, it isn't, just get after it until you are satisfied. I personally am not where I'd like to be, but I always keep trying. You are off to a great start, so get after it and "get er done". Keep us posted on the progress of your dio Hugo.

Thx for sharing, Ski.

Check out some of my pics of my latest dio in the works. I followed the advice of some of the masters.



you dont fanice posting your work in a seperate thread and explaing some what how you did the painting and weathering techniques do you?



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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 04:53 AM UTC
James,

I'd like to take the time to explain the process step by step, but I am short on time when it come3s toworking on my dios, etc. That's why I suggested Hugo check out all the great articles on painting etc. Sorry for the inconvenience. Just remember, if you carefully study other artist's work you can pretty much pic up what they have done. Practice is the key, and time will bring out some awesome work.

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Hello Steve Ski!
Thanks for the advices. When I have more fotos I will share with you.
Thanks again...
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:59 AM UTC
Hello!
Infortunally I don't have enough time to dedicate the hobby model... Itīs the hard life...
Nevertheless I Will put another figures and a dodge that will be part of diorama. I hope you enjoy....



















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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 12:01 PM UTC
The figures are a little advanced. I will go try to take a new fotos and put in here for you can see. Thank you.
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 01:08 PM UTC
In the movie with John Wayne, there is a scene where he is walking down the beach, with the sun setting beautifully at sea. That means that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. Also, the bright 1st CAV insignia and the American Flag on the backs of th e flak jackets are beautiful bright targets in an all green jungle. You would not see that either. The M79 also, was a great weapon in VN. I shot it. Good work on the builds, though, just accurize it and you've got some real beauty.

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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 02:04 PM UTC
Interesting dio with lots of details. I wouldn't worry too much about painting figures as I'm sure you will improve with practice. My only small suggestion would be to tone down the olive drab especially on their flak jackets and helmets. The Ultraviolet from the sun in the tropics and the rain quickly fades the greens in helmets, uniforms and flak jackets making them more brown then green. You could always tone the green down with a very diluted wash of brown if you wish. As you say it may be the flash making the figures look glossy but a wash of brown will also help to matt down the slight satin look of some of your uniforms.
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 08:10 PM UTC
Hello!

Mr Matt Cusimano
Thank you for the sugestions and commentary. I know that a flag in back it a excellent target to enemy.... Nevertheless I have some fotos that there are jackets with paints... I donīt have any wth a flag but I have with a songer. I donīt have a snger so I put a flag.... Thank you for the comment.
With best regards
Hugo Pereira

Mr CK Tang
Has I say, the fifures are alittle different, with more detaisl.... I donīt have oppurtonity to take more fotos... I will go try do the expereince with your sugestion...
Thanks again.
With best regards
Hugo Pereira
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