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Airfix B-25 C/D
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2018 - 10:29 PM UTC
I recently purchased the new Airfix 1/72 B-25 C/D. Looks nice in the box and seems like it may be a good project for a little build here. Maybe I will even finish this one! It appears to have parts for a possible B build so keep and eye out for a future release along those lines. Typical gray, slightly soft Airfix plastic. Some of the interior detailing is a little soft but the waist and navigators areas will never be seen anyway. General shapes look good and the clear pieces are nice and thin.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - 12:12 AM UTC
Beats the heck out of the alternative kits. Italeri and Frog? Both with barely there cockpit detailing (thrones and wheels?) Thick raised panel lines?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - 01:56 AM UTC
The decals look to be of very good quality but of course I want something different. A strafer from the 345th seems like a good idea and a friend directed me to a sheet from Eagle Strike. "Hell's Belles" is an early D set up with four nose guns, side packs, 30 caliber waist guns and a fifty hanging out the tail. The side packs are from Quickboost. Looks like the most challenging part of this project will be the nose art.





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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - 09:40 AM UTC
Watching with interest Karl
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 - 02:47 AM UTC
I am not going to do much to the interior but I did have to fix the pilots seat. For some reason, Airfix made it too narrow and then tapered it. So I added a couple of "wings" to make it look a bit better. Also added the very prominent armor plate behind the seat, something no kit provides. That always struck me as a bit odd but it's an easy fix. As the clear bits for the waist are nice and thin the structure for the belly turret shows up. So I added a floor over it since that is what was done when the turret was removed.

I really meant for this to be a build blog, is there some way I can convert it to such?



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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 - 10:31 PM UTC
The fuselage went together fairly well. Any seam issues are self inflicted... For some reason, Airfix would have you attach the upper wing to the spars and then add the lower wing. I taped a wing together and tried installing it. Worked okay so I took the big leap and glued it together. You have to finagle the rear spar a bit but really not a problem. Attaching the wings first makes it more difficult to paint the fuselage under the wing and the inner portion of the nacelles or so my reasoning goes . The wings and stabs have a raised rib that is supposed to represent the fairing for the deice boots. Way oversized but as I am doing a Pacific bird I just removed them with a little scraping and sanding. Anyone who has built a B-25 knows that the fit of the rear of the nacelle to the upper aft wing is usually pretty bad. The photo here of that area is as built, no gaps or misalignment, haven't done any filling or anything. Good job Airfix!





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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2018 - 01:15 PM UTC
Karl, for some reason I have missed this blog until now... my bad!

I will definitely follow it because I am fire-sure you'll get a superb piece at the end!

The second point of interest is the Airfix brand. I think I'm the only one in this community that never built one . I keep buying them but for some foggy reason I never get to actually build one, although I find them very appealing in the box.

Good luck with the build.
Cheers!
Gabriel
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Posted: Sunday, June 17, 2018 - 03:31 AM UTC
karl,
Gotta thank you for your semi blog build. The Airfix kit has been on my gotta build list since I built a few of their new era kits. Great kits with outstanding engineering and detail. And their decals are more then just "ok", they're the equal to a lot of the AM decals out there.

Your build to date looks excellent. So I'll be pulling up my chair and following your build to its conclusion.


Joel
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2018 - 12:31 AM UTC
Did not accomplish anything modeling-wise this weekend, volunteered with the Liberty Foundation near Indianapolis, here is Indy from the cockpit of the B-17 "Madras Maiden":



Hotter than blazes! But still a good way to spend the weekend

B-25 cowlings are never quite what I would like. The aft exhaust shrouds are not hollowed out and adding the forward ones is usually a grand adventure. As I started to do this, I was grumping that the cheap SOB's could give you a couple of spares as it wouldn't cost them anything and people invariably launch one to the carpet monster. Lo and behold check out the Airfix instructions and the note at the bottom. Thank you Airfix!



So I started hollowing out the exhaust shrouds on the back and added all those wonderful little bits. One small step forward:



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Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 - 01:09 AM UTC
Karl,
the only time I've ever wanted to go to Indy is for the 500, but I'd take a ride over it any day in a B-17.

Gotta hand it to Airfix for the extras. I know only to well how the Carpet Monster just loves those small parts.

Joel
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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2018 - 08:20 AM UTC
As long as I was doing things the way Airfix wanted me to, they went fairly smoothly. But now I am deviating from the original and turning it into a strafer. So I have been prepping the fuselage and wings for paint as well as trying to figure out the best way to set up the nose guns. Fortunately, the kit has four extra fifties (the two in the nose and the two for the unused belly turret).

Here is what I am shooting for (pardon the pun):



And here is where I am so far:

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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2018 - 10:03 AM UTC
Karl,
Nice start to that nose conversion. To say I'm impressed is putting it mildly.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, June 24, 2018 - 09:28 AM UTC
Karl, it's a brave modeller who attempts customized glazing!

Looking good so far!
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Posted: Sunday, June 24, 2018 - 09:43 AM UTC

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Karl, it's a brave modeller who attempts customized glazing!

Looking good so far!




Russell,
That's for sure. I don't think I've ever cut open any clear parts.


Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 - 06:29 AM UTC
Not to worry, the clear glazing will all be painted when this is done. Here it is with the first coat. I think it is a little too dark and looking at the decal, I need to bring the blue back further along the lower side of the fuselage. Might have been smarter to have painted the inside of the canopy first as it took a few coats to make it opaque! The next trick is going to be making and lining up the masking for the blue so that the white decals will fit properly. Eagle provides you with a template but I still think it is going to be a challenge to get everything to line up properly. Only time will tell...



And now I see there is some seam work to do as well...
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 - 03:27 AM UTC
This was a little nerve wracking but I cut the mask and applied it. It seems to have worked. We will see how well the decals meet up. I am sure there will be some cutting and cussing involved but things are going in the right direction. Had a little paint peel off the right side so there will be some touch work there as well. Next thing is to determine the placement of the side packs and mount them. Then she will truly be a strafer!





And after comparing to the real thing, mine is a bit too far forward. But I think I will live with it !
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 - 05:50 AM UTC
Karl
That's some great job you did on masking. the start of the Bat realty looks great.


Joel
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 01:20 AM UTC
It has been QUITE some time since I updated this. Once I got the blue painted, I was really leery of putting on the decals. Would they fit, how would I position them? How the hell am I going to get the "mouth" around the nose guns? So it got stuck in a drawer and forgotten about. Recently I built another of the Airfix B-25's and, again, I found it to be a very nice kit. So I drug this one out. The mouth was in two parts so I started by punching two holes in each one that (I thought) would line up with the guns. I got the up and down right but the side to side I missed a touch. The small gap was painted in with no problems so I got away with that! Next, all of the white outline detail and the name were in one large decal for each side. Best approach I could come up with was to cut them into smaller pieces and remove some of the clear so the decal set could get under. It took a couple of days but I got most of it in place with no major issues. Did have to touch up a couple of places but the Eagle Strike decals did react well to Micro Set and Micro Sol. WIth that obstacle out of the way, this bird is back on the bench, we shall see how it goes





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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 01:46 AM UTC
Karl,
You just plain nailed those decals. The nose art is dead perfect. Now finish her up.

Joel
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 01:49 AM UTC
Good job. I'm watching your job, because I have the same model and I'm going to build a strafer too. Mine will be done as "Dirty Dora" (I have decals from DK Decals).
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 03:00 AM UTC
Wow! Fantastic job on that bat, Karl!
I just imagine that this is in 1/72 .... and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get it correct in "my" scale 1/48 ....
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 03:08 AM UTC
Thank you Joel, it remains on the bench and small advances are being made. I have good intentions...

Thank you Andy, do you have that 345th set? I had never heard of those decals before, those look great!

A building suggestion if I may: The instructions would have you build the wings around the spars on the fuselage. I built them separately but left the flaps and the firewall off. You can then finagle the wings on later and have access to the spars to glue them. I do this as it makes painting the fuselage and the inboard side of the nacelles much easier. You may need to file off the outboard end of the spars a bit to get the wings to fit up against the fuselage so dry fit, dry fit, dry fit!
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 03:14 AM UTC
2Ammazing work!!!!
I follow your work with special interest!!
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 05:42 AM UTC

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Thank you Andy, do you have that 345th set? I had never heard of those decals before, those look great!



Yes, I have this set. And thank's for advice.
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 09:33 PM UTC
great to see this one moving forward Karl!

Really good job on the nose art
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